From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 25 19:14:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (leviathan.inethouston.net [66.64.12.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078E37B405 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dwcjr (dwcjr [192.168.0.216]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328D910F40A; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:14:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004c01c17628$6bd0cce0$d800a8c0@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Cyrille Lefevre" , "Jochem Kossen" Cc: "Dinesh Nair" , "Tom Fischer" , "FreeBSD-Stable" References: <3BFF8750.8090109@rain.fr> <20011125211058.A628@jochem.dyndns.org> <20011125213815.GA16500@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20011125230111.A24090@jochem.dyndns.org> <20011125222422.GA17212@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20011125233536.A24348@jochem.dyndns.org> <20011125230612.GB17212@leviathan.inethouston.net> <00c201c17625$8c4febc0$91e5c6d4@cybercable.fr> Subject: Re: linux-base 6.2 vs linux-base 7 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:14:12 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You may want to try to get rid of linux_base6 and 7 and do a fresh > > install of 7. I know staroffice works right out of the ports with > > 7 and linux-netscape just needs a symlink to the libstdc++. I do > > not know about linux-opera. > > frankly, do you think it is a normal thing to do ? how about other > linux ports which all depend on linux_base while staroffice6 is the > only one depending on linux_base-7 ! as I remember me, staroffice6 This is normal because there's a bug in the way redhat 7.x treats shared libs. If you want to complain about how absurd the workaround is spam the redhat mailing list because its their fault! staroffice6 is the only port that depends on linux_base7 because it practically requires the new linuxulator kernel and redhat7 > also works w/ linux_base, so, why not just switching it to use > linux_base > instead of linux_base-7 and to switch all linux ports to linux_base-7 > when they will be right to use it. the *right* alternative, of > course, They can use it with little modification. Most only require you changing the dependency in the Makefile > would be to fix linux_base-7 to be linux_base compatible... but > nobody care and everybody seems to considere normal what's > happen !!! Its not that linux_base-7 isn't "linux_base" compatible its that redhat 7 has a shared lib bug. We will have to use some of linux_base6's libc5 for those ports which actually require it, but we can't even get a grasp on what doesn't work under linux_base7 because we can't get enough details about what doesn't work. Most people just say "it doesn't work, linux_base-7 sucks". The reality is that linux_base-6 will go away because we are phasing in linux_base7 so we have to fix what we can to make the ports work with it whether its modifying the linux_base7 port or the ports that depend on it. This is going to be on a per port basis, there is no simple fix to fix all the problems in this massive upgrade process. We cannot continue until people start substantiating problems with a fresh linux_base-7 installation instead of complaining how it works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message