From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 21 3: 5:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D555937B723; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA06225; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:05:49 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: kc5vdj@swbell.net Cc: dmartin@origen.com, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange Spam In-Reply-To: <200002211027.EAA77853@ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Jim Bryant wrote: > echelon is a great idea, but i honestly don't think the computing > power exists to filter ALL internet traffic through a centralized > location. Who said anything about filtering all internet traffic? All it would take is a few strategic taps placed in various US backbones to cover a significant proportion of traffic. The Australian DSD (Defense Signals Directorate) have admitted on record that they participate in echelon as part of the UKUSA alliance..it's really quite well documented in mainstream sources by now. > occam's razor dictates that the entire echelon thing is just another > commie-style recruitment tactic that right-wing extremist groups use. Reports tabled in the european parliament argue otherwise. They're taking it very seriously. Good references are: http://www.cyber-rights.org/interception/stoa/interception_capabilities_2000.htm http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/ic2kreport.htm Kris ---- "How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a man?" "Eight!" "That was a rhetorical question!" "Oh..then, seven!" -- Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message