From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1341065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188B8FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RGqVuR018025; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RGqVOe018022; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:43 -0000 > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, > or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have > been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive > attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. it's not OSS problem but general problem with all software. this problem started with commercial software some years ago because PEOPLE WANTED THIS. they wanted to have top-end rubbish as most of poeple don't do anything more on their computer than starting few simple programs and a web browser, but wanted to stay "ahead". That's why both windoze and KDE (and lots of others) software is such a crap. But it's very simple solution for that for everyone slightly smarter than idiot. Simply DON'T use them. You can do all things with non-"trendy" unix programs, and with "archaic" unix way of computing. for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you use. that's all. the wistles are not needed for work. Actually it makes work harder and much less efficient. You don't need "desktop features", you jest need programs that do what you need, and run them. Leave all this colorful whistles to average monkey.