From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 18 13:44: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E5C37B404; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D7943E9C; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C6F1F66B5E; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:43:57 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Scott Long Cc: current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, dirk@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current Message-ID: <20021018204357.GA80640@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:37:02AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > **Warning, rant** > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that,=20 > pkg_add has become close to worthless now that the -r feature > is so fragile. If 5.0 goes out and popular ports don't build, > it will hurt the image of FreeBSD. Please, take a break from > adding new ports and/or maintaining your pet ports and fix some > of the broken-ness. IMO, the fault for this lies mostly with source committers who break backwards-compatibility and then don't bother to clean up after their changes (i.e. don't consider the impact of their changes beyond the source tree). I don't think ports committers have been responsible for breaking about a thousand ports like source developers have over the past year or so. Having said that, we do badly need ports committers to work on fixing broken ports for 5.0-RELEASE. Kris --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9sHKNWry0BWjoQKURArKMAKD5czS4ZZaItjt2kgOCKxlCFvPh/QCfTDlL ER7hzFgqvDM6MB7+c7tW5oE= =/2NZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message