From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 27 19:59:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0169833 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CB3324BA for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id db12so5344851veb.8 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:59:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=G/HST7oGdy+0utsA0jq7ITWrn88cvwz8bQ8csCj/w/A=; b=BsSGwELRNQ6MGQ0QNzR+vv8Az0+0rk5OLA+yGhUgUCkHboHUPsmyb7pskqsGYs7ryJ mkDsqaHg+KBtLU2rwQDioBfgt9uPPYRTVh8V7KAcATsT8pdRUq84SoDZ6CIfqQGKlQD7 fB+yvV2rIk8mWXI3OUhbDzTcYRpJp/nJUxIpQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=G/HST7oGdy+0utsA0jq7ITWrn88cvwz8bQ8csCj/w/A=; b=kdwP1Xcc7jxxDURHi/WRRRjqJtOy3F6DsdhPSJfQLXch3GCMOcdtHJI+t21kZFdMwp c7qcsPVXHgX64h6Fg2u+V0oZNTeX8BaFsPPaEYRa5rWOp0D5IPQdQkERgndD3hsWOnlh OPdRjJxdHkTi54OoDqRsUQFiRjpreoLl4/v7CrRB+8PCtFi1WfLzKlJ1IHqKoT3lpcMH +QCxObAr9aFwK+GEd8p4PM9GP36BNHlpM89crJz/oOd5Xrtu+UHXBx0CEyRrIX774Crz CB+J7AJnLiNe1G7pHgbvcPKo7kXvghX+RP1b9CxM8BvuhN2CZ2Qdeq1P8K4X86LnInPH H+JQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFHYxKcnpelGSdQ5ql4Zoz3cyOCuKeCODQzkQ0/f9t+EPifAcwPXCYYVk76DLW4whADXWS MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.64.140 with SMTP id o12mr1240213vds.40.1385582378350; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.167.74 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:59:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131127170039.2da15f21@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> References: <201311270454.rAR4sOqI004103@svn.freebsd.org> <20131127050358.GG1710@glenbarber.us> <52959276.7070803@wemm.org> <20131127170039.2da15f21@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:59:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r258672 - in head: . share/mk From: Peter Wemm To: Tijl Coosemans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Glen Barber , svn-src-all , "src-committers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:59:39 -0000 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:34:30 -0800 Peter Wemm wrote: >> A slightly longer explanation of what I was thinking: >> >> - There's a new round of 'make -j' problems lurking in there. We are >> missing chunks of the ordering glue that cause libraries to be built in the >> right order when they depend on each other. >> - It's a waste of cpu time for the usual case, particularly for the 11.x >> cycle for the next 1-2 years. >> - We don't build them properly - we invent cpu flags etc. >> >> The usual use case for 32 bit binaries seems to be: >> - running a 32 bit chroot or jail - this is unaffected. >> - running old binaries, usually from 4.x or 6.x when the 64 bit port was >> really green - WITH_LIB32 doesn't actually help much with this because most >> of the libraries are missing. > > Ugh, please revert this. You forgot about Wine. Done, but nothing prevented you from adding WITH_LIB32=yes yourself, or doing a 'make build32/install32' after buildworld/installworld. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do.