From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jul 26 21:15:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04312 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cynix.ecn.purdue.edu (cynix.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.198.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04276 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from splite@purdue.edu) Received: (from splite@localhost) by cynix.ecn.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26871; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:12:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980726231242.A26777@cynix.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:12:42 -0500 From: Steven Plite To: Nicholas Lee Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel Providence deal at computer123 References: <35c3ebc4.14598707@smtp.ix.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <35c3ebc4.14598707@smtp.ix.net.nz>; from Nicholas Lee on Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 02:30:52PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 02:30:52PM +0000, Nicholas Lee wrote: > Noticed your post in Dejanews dated 1998/07/08, Re: overclocking > PPro166-512kB. > > I was wondering if the 166MHz 512Kb ended up being better than the 180Mhz > with the deal computer123.com are offering at the moment. > > How was your business with Clifford Technology Inc as well? Were the CPUs > new or Pulls? I haven't been terribly impressed with Clifford Tech so far. Shipment packaging was sloppy, the rotor of one of the CPU fans had popped out and was floating around inside the board's static bag. I haven't called them yet to get it replaced. It also took them two weeks to ship my order. The motherboards are pulls (from Toshiba Equium 6200Ms probably, since the one I've installed has a Toshiba logo on boot up) and don't include the ATX IO shield to cover the ports. I have no idea where to get one to fit the PR440FX, since it's a bit odd in port layout. But at least the boards look clean, and they came with a photocopied jumper diagram, which is good as Intel's manual only gives settings for 180 and 200MHz. The CPUs are pulls as well, and look a bit worn. They did ship them with (cheap) fan/heatsinks, but without any thermal grease (which you can get at Radio Shack.) That said, the one board I've installed works so far, though all I've run on it is DOS and a -current boot floppy. I'll try loading a -current snap tonight. Bottom line is: you get what you pay for. Or rather, you don't get what you don't pay for. I don't know that I'd trust this gear to a production box, but they should be fine in test boxes, which is where mine's going. As for the 166/512 vs. 180/256 question, I haven't done any comparitive testing and am unlikely to have time to do so. But, if you can afford the cost delta, the 166/512 would be preferable. Twice the L2 cache and 10% faster memory bus are good, and they would probably overclock to 180MHz (or more) easily if the 14MHz delta in clock speed bothers you. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message