From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 27 22:40:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25348 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles237.castles.com [208.214.165.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25339; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00998; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810280639.WAA00998@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: FreeBSD-chat , jmb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: First SPAM prosecution in Washington State In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:29:17 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:39:39 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The Project.Manager email is curious. It states compliance with new bill > (not law) of some unknown governing authority's unknown law book. I smell > HOAX all over it. It's a common tactic, referring to the probably soon-to-be-passed legislation here which will make spam about as legitimate as physical junk mail. The Direct Marketting Association have lots of lobbying capital. > It reminded me of something though. > > The State of Washington is prosecuting a spammer under our new anti-spam > law. The penalty can be as much as 2,000 USD per email sent. > > One of the items needed is a legitimate return email adress. Let me ask > you, Is Project.Manager@freebsd.org a legitimate address? (I really doubt > it but must ask.) No, it's not. I didn't study the headers carefully, but I believe it also fails in that it made some attempt to conceal the true origins of the message. > If not, then this spammer might be prosecuted under Washington State Law. > This would be interesting to see how our law handles "mailing lists". > Since I am a resident of Washington, every single spammer who hits > FreeBSD-whatever could face charges. I believe there's probably a case there. The act of delivering to the list@freebsd.org address counts as delivering to you, a Washington State resident; the law doesn't, to the best of my knowledge, stipulate where the mail has to be held, merely to whom it is sent and the fashion and form in which it is sent. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message