From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 00:04:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D82B16A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 00:04:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5101543D4C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 00:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so5134nzf for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:04:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S9VGE4WOlNi4ngtJpUpKlz2kquXMsT28edsoXaRC69WTQ3zqfAYIr6ub0Zpo++ek8isUIalZ6jWfpG3XUA2aWJqVPPkzhmWVU0JXufFE3976l644DCjssuF193r4X+FAfgPbGBpCJJMinMZKVjy0to9QGKK0yO7RBD7qxwyEsUA= Received: by 10.36.220.46 with SMTP id s46mr795721nzg; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.20.34 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:04:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 03:04:21 +0300 From: "Andrew P." To: Doug Poland In-Reply-To: <20051028210946.GF46357@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051028210946.GF46357@polands.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing kernel options and devices in today's world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:04:36 -0000 On 10/29/05, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using FreeBSD since 2.1.5 and have dutifully tweaked my > kernels to include devices I need, and remove unwanted things. This > made a big difference on 486's with 16MB of memory. > > Over the years I've developed a procedure for keeping track of changes > in GENERIC and reducing the amount of time it takes to build a custom > kernel for a given box. > > Fast-forward to 2005, PCI, SMP, gigabytes of RAM, kernel loadable > modules and FreeBSD 6.x. As I begin preparing some boxes for updating > to 6, I'm wondering if it's really worth the effort to tweak a kernel? > And by this I mean removing devices and options. It's trivial to have > an include for the devices/options I need to add to every kernel. But > the list of things to take out keeps getting bigger and bigger and the > chance for errors in editing increase. > > I'm thinking of just running GENERIC with necessary additions. Most of > my boxes are workstations or department-sized servers supporting basic > web, email, and file/print services. Architecture is all 32-bit Intel > ranging from modest PIII to 4-way Xeon P4. > > I can come up with several arguments for both cases (running GENERIC vs. > trimming all unneeded "fat" from a kernel). Has anyone else wrestled wit= h > this issue and come up with interesting conclusions? > > -- > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > I leave almost everything on my desktop machines, but who needs usb, firewire and wifi on a production DB server?