From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 10:25:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C70416A4CE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr (andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920244003 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost.esil.univ-mrs.fr [127.0.0.1])hA5IGPPP047569 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:16:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost)hA5IGPFP047568 for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:16:25 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:16:25 +0100 From: Herve Quiroz To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20031105181625.GA47496@andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20031104182139.GB37133@andouillette.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <20031105174301.GA6153@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031105174301.GA6153@misty.eyesbeyond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Building Java ports from sources or not ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:25:19 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:43:01AM -0700, Greg Lewis wrote: > I think it would be useful to have a general policy so that new porters > can know which they should try and do. This doesn't mean all ports have > to go one way or the other, but as much consistency as possible is good. I agree. In fact I was looking for this when asking. This kind of "agreed recommended policy" and all the stuff in bsd.java.mk for Java ports should be part of an "official document" regarding Java ports. Probably part of the FreeBSD distribution... Any volunteer ? ;) I need to browse the mailing list archive but IIRC someone told us he was quite interested in contributing to freebsd-java but he said he was not skilled enough for low-level development. Maybe this is a good chance for him. We don't need to start from scratch here. Basically we could start by using the various HTML pieces already available (Ernst's webpages[1] for example). > Question. Does anyone know what NetBSD, OpenBSD or Gentoo Linux do for > Java ports and whether they have a policy on this? Just a quick look at www.gentoo.org and here is what I found: http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/dev-java/commons-cli/commons-cli-1.0-r2.ebuild?rev=1.5&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup --> jakarta-commons-cli is built from source. Here most of the other Java ebuilds (Gentoo ports) are built from source. In fact I didn't find any ebuild that is a binary one. Except maybe dom4j but I can't tell because the dom4j distribution includes everything needed to build it (even ant and junit) so even the fact that the build tools are not amongst the build dependencies does not necessarily mean that is a binary ebuild. I don't know for NetBSD nor OpenBSD... I will take a look at it tomorrow unless someone else answers before. Regards, Herve [1] http://people.freeebsd.org/~znerd