From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 18 14:37:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE8737B401; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAFC43E9E; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Scott_Long@adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g9ILbP517250; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OTCEXC01.otc.adaptec.com (otcexc01.otc.adaptec.com [10.12.1.27]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19613; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by otcexc01.otc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TQCXBD2>; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:37:23 -0400 Message-ID: <6100BCEB85F8E244959C756C04E0EDD161CAD9@otcexc01.otc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , Will Andrews Cc: Scott Long , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: RE: cdrtools doesn't build on -current Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:37:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > In 40 years of using computers, nothing has changed. The system's > people are still primadona's and do nothing wrong. > > Get used to it :). Unfortunately!! People don't install OSes because > of the OS as much as the codes they can run on it. The > importance tree > is inverted. The people that think they are the most important are > only there to provide improved tools to the people that users > depend on. > > Kent > No, the systems people do do stuff wrong. It's been plainly pointed out many times recently when someone does something wrong. However, what's wrong with a little cooperation? If a port breaks because of a system change, the maintainer of the port is certainly welcome to raise a stink over it. All I'm asking is that ports maintainers make an effort to maintain their ports. Will's accertation that it's an all or nothing issue is certainly not productive, and neither is the 'us versus them' inuendo here. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message