From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:15:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0F016A404 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from breath@unix.net) Received: from mtsnet.ru (mts3.mtsnet.ru [213.87.0.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC26313C465 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from breath@unix.net) Received: from [84.17.224.22] (HELO breathpoint.home) by mtsnet.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.1) with SMTP id 562638; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:15:15 +0400 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:07:36 +0400 From: Yuri Grebenkin To: soralx@cydem.org Message-Id: <20070411180736.7411d663.breath@unix.net> In-Reply-To: <20070411065023.108c33c9@soralx.cydem.org> References: <76BA0043-1D47-42FB-AB77-BB6C7A69E792@mac.com> <461BCB47.4080504@daleco.biz> <20070411025236.275f40de.breath@unix.net> <20070410225507.3942fe39@soralx.cydem.org> <20070411151733.708bf320.breath@unix.net> <20070411065023.108c33c9@soralx.cydem.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:15:20 -0000 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:50:23 -0700 soralx@cydem.org wrote: > Well, I think it's clear already that people are getting real messages > from the maillists, even though they [think] they don't want them and > say they can't unsubscrbe? Hm... If you try to unsubscribe by sending a > message to mailman, do you get removed immediately, or there's some > form of confirmation mail sent (that gets lost in the Great > Bitbucket, perhaps)? I've just instructed the latest visitor to try email way. The most interesting question is where and how it all starts to subscribe? (if only subscribtion actually takes a place) And another: What about Mailman subscriber passwords? Though, we still don't know clear enough source of messages which are sent to our new visitors. Maybe fake "FreeBSD list". They just click "Reply" and it reaches the real one. - Yuri