From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 20 21:45:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18453106566C for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BD28FC12 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so1829122fxe.17 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:45:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=X9osTiS19kpgjWk3s9O6/KGXu2ryZ/5Z3JDQBbHRS/Q=; b=cj10NVWN14yIUaXyd1PgpAJIg+3znpbzOAAW3vIlvLdX/5hWDORjKKuj/EdaPIOfk+ pkAxrQrA2n1ezzyxE6cXXzB9k1bMCasRA4Th3GYbtHDyzbcS3yi7SJcd7YN84Phe2hVS ta9POJ1Z0W18TH5IEicXAmUpIaGsP2TFOLBvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.65.206 with SMTP id xn14mr2869433bkb.329.1311198349362; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.60.17 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:45:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <375e5bcac1acd4b781ef97bd1718e689.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> References: <375e5bcac1acd4b781ef97bd1718e689.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:45:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Jackson To: Daniel Staal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:45:51 -0000 upgradability is not just about about ram and hard drives. But i would beg to differ that people dont want to add hard drives considering how fast they can be filled with movies, or they wouldnt want to use their old hard drives on a newer system considering how much data is on the older hard drive. but you also have scanners, cameras, joysticks, capture devices for video, and so on that many common users love to use. A lot of people use computers for writing, home and office business work, and gaming, and given the choice between a 3" screen and a 20" screen, you want a 20" screen. Even facebook is better on a 20" screen. I stand by what i said, mobile is great for use on a subway, but when you get home, you really want a nice 20" screen to work on, and the bigger hard drive and faster CPU. I do want FreeBSD on both my handheld and the desktop. Now, notice its very difficult to near impossible to change the operating system on handhelds. Thats one reason I dont like most handhelds made today. They are designed to control you. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > > On Wed, July 20, 2011 1:52 pm, David Jackson wrote: > > I do not believe that these phones or tablets will replace desktop but > > there > > is a lot of room for these two types of devices basically to communicate, > > giving people access to their data and environment from both. The reason > I > > dont see the desktop going anywhere is that, basically people dont want > to > > work on a spreadsheet, play a game, write a letter or do many other > things > > on a 3" screen. Students wont want to use them to do their reports, etc. > > Phones and tablets are handy when on the go due to the portability, but > > their portability makes them impractical for use at home when a larger > > screen is more desirable. The growth of tablets is due to there simply > not > > being the market there before and more people buying them for mobile use. > > But desktops will remain popular for home and work use. Also users want > > upgradeability, they dont want to be stuck with the same amount of hard > > disk > > space and may want to add a new camera to the system, a capture device, > > scanner, etc. Desktop systems provide much more upgrade flexibility. > > Linking > > the desktop to the tablet will be an important thing so people can access > > data and so on from their tablet. > > I'll disagree, somewhat: I know several people who are using a tablet as a > desktop-replacement laptop. They have a Bluetooth keyboard, and can use > the tablet as a full computer or not. > > Most *consumers,* in my experience, also don't typically care about > upgradablity. Either the machine works when they get it, or it doesn't > (which is a warranty issue), and after that if it breaks in few years, > well, time to get a new one. A few will add RAM or a HD when they get it, > but that's about it. Other additions, if any, are done as USB/Bluetooth, > etc, and can be done on a tablet just as easily as a desktop. > > As for binary drivers... They work ok *if* and *while* the company wants > to support the hardware/OS. Once they decide they don't want to, that's > it. This tends to cause problems down the road. Also, they may do no > more than the minimum necessary to support a certain version of the OS, > unless that OS is a major source for their customers. So while they *can* > make better drivers than the core team, they often *don't.* > > Best is an open driver by the manufacturer. Second is open docs, third is > binary blob. My opinion. > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >