From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 18 15:21:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB2137B401; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E8B43E8A; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB8AD24085; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:19:43 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: "Long, Scott" Cc: current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current Message-ID: <20021018221943.GM19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Long, Scott" , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org References: <6100BCEB85F8E244959C756C04E0EDD161CAD9@otcexc01.otc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6100BCEB85F8E244959C756C04E0EDD161CAD9@otcexc01.otc.adaptec.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 05:37:22PM -0400, Long, Scott wrote: > No, the systems people do do stuff wrong. It's been plainly pointed > out many times recently when someone does something wrong. However, > what's wrong with a little cooperation? If a port breaks because of > a system change, the maintainer of the port is certainly welcome to > raise a stink over it. All I'm asking is that ports maintainers make > an effort to maintain their ports. Will's accertation that it's an > all or nothing issue is certainly not productive, and neither is the > 'us versus them' inuendo here. You need to re-read my message. I merely said it shouldn't be a total effort on the part of ports developers, as you imply. That is counter-productive (since it's unfair to assume they all know exactly what the change results in). All I'm asking for is a little foresight on the part of those that break things in -CURRENT. It's much easier just to leave (a) port(s) broken for a couple months while the dust settles in -CURRENT, as developers there continue to leave ports people in the dark on the effects of their changes and common approaches to fixing the problems. Only when that is resolved is it reasonable to expect *all* ports maintainers to keep up. Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message