From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:07:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D06106564A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444BB8FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-14-53.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.14.53]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9073D23C; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:07:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n08E7V21001512; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:07:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:07:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Grant Peel Message-Id: <20090108150731.13127f61.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4C17D6F9D67D4A79814EB2EBA8004034@GRANTPC> <200901072114.18255.gnemmi@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kurt Buff , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:07:49 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:23:20 -0500, "Grant Peel" wrote: > Cool to see the thread take this twist, but the original question still > remains: > > How doe one install FreeBSD without the sysinstal utility? In principle, you just start a kind of minimal live file system, use its commands (like fdisk, bsdlabel, newfs, then tar etc.) to install the system from the CD or DVD (or the Internet). Neccessary changes to files (like /etc/rc.conf) would have to be done manually (read: you would have to write it by yourself). Not that it wasn't impossible. If I remember correctly, the last time I tried OpenBSD it had a "guided installer" similar to this. No ncurses based dialog driven installer. I don't know how fast the sysinstall utility will disappear, but I would miss it. Personally, a "next, next, next, next, next, next" GUI based installer wouldn't be applealing to me, requiring me to be present during the installation, hah! :-) After a while, you can be really fast with sysinstall, and especially in the early stage of installation its very helpful. I don't use it to install software afterwards. In any case, it would be great to have the choice to still use sysinstall if the new installer is worse. But hey, this is FreeBSD, and up to this point, I haven't seen anything that would be crap from the OS team. (Crap only in ports.) :-) So I would definitely give any new sysinstaller a chance. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...