From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 26 8:31:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C442C37B6EF for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.99]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:36:10 -0700 Message-ID: <39070BCC.5E51C3A8@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:31:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Gunnar H Reichert-Weygold , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports: any difference between 3.x/4.0? References: <00042518315401.00333@gunnar.my.domain> <20000426074930.B570@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <39067736.C453940F@3-cities.com> <20000426140248.A1104@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Thanks for the answer. Glad that the problems I saw weren't the only > ones which exist and I can look forward to more :-) It keeps life interesting :). I liked the signature line I read a while back that went something like "If you thoroughly understand what you are doing, you aren't learning anything." Computers are complicated enough that anyone can become a world expert on their little section of interest. You also have to remember that no matter how good you are, you may have the opportunity to wear the "pointy hat". You only have to follow the "cvs-all" list to watch the experts get their chance. The important part is that they are willing to take the chance. I think of the T-shirt of a dog sled team mushing through the snow in Alaska with the caption that "The scenery only changes for the lead dog." > > Yes, ports are a lifesaver. I don't think anything else I've seen > comes close, certainly not RPM's. I think that Microsoft has something like an Evangelist. This is a person that is a walking PR for a product. I figure I have become one for FreeBSD. FreeBSD isn't perfect and never will be. Neither are any of the Linux's are any of the other OS'es perfect. Some of the products that we all use such as KDE have their own cvsup tree. The ability to keep my system current (really stable) was the feature that converted me from following Microsoft's NT (2000 now) line to using FreeBSD. Microsoft would have to produce an hourly service pack to compete. > > > The changes that they made to the Makefiles in the ports left a number > > broken for a short time. Your port setup could be out of step with the > > ports themselves. The "cvs commits" to fix the new Makefile structure > > have pretty much died off recently. > > My ports tree is updated quite regularly, so I don't think that's the > problem. I was just wondering whether there were two ports trees, one > for 3.4 and one for 4.0, like there are several source trees. It > seems that is not the case. In that case I'm surprised by how well > things actually work: in linux, for instance, lots of things tend to > get broken after a major upgrade. The cvsup line for ports is simply "*default release=cvs tag=.", which says that you are following the current or head of the tree. Current right now is the 5.0 tree. There are some drop off points but following that is sort of like cvsuping a release point. It doesn't change once they RTM the gold CDROM's. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message