From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 28 17:05:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00927 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00896; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:05:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199806290005.RAA00896@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Does it's true? In-Reply-To: from "Jason C. Wells" at "Jun 28, 98 03:27:43 pm" To: jcwells@u.washington.edu (Jason C. Wells) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, fpawlak@execpc.com, drifter@stratos.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason C. Wells wrote: > I feel that a rag tag militia that has heart and the support of the > population is incredibly difficult to defeat. I have heard commanders of > the South East Asian theater make this statement. an insurgency supported by the local population against a visibly distinct opposing force is formidable, indeed. those characteristics do not and would not obtain in the USA. > I feel that an auto loading rifle is sufficient for the purpose of > opposing tyranny. This is a personal opinion. well, i beg to differ. please speak to some veterans about arty and its affects on infantry. (one hint: arty kills more infantry than *anything* else, sometimes more than all other weapons combined). alternatively talk to vietnam vets about the effects of repeated airstrikes on the survivors. watch them whenever they hear a plane close overhead. not a pretty sight. > > what would it have availed the chinese students to have > > small arms in tianamen (sp) square. it would not have > > forestalled action by the gov't. > > No it would not have forstalled the government. Here I will avoid > discussion (I am a proponent) of civil disobedience as an instrument of > power. Still, if the citizens of the nation of China were given the > weapons that the only the civilians of the US owns, there would be a shift > in power. yes, given sufficient number and external support, if they could survive that long. i am not necessarily disagreeing with you, but rather believe that the odds are very long. people that play long odds in war are called casualties. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message