From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Aug 26 17:28:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20078 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co ([168.176.15.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19783 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unalmodem.usc.unal.edu.co (unalmodem06.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.36]) by ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04414; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:23:01 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <34038E30.6659@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:17:20 -0700 From: "Pedro Giffuni S," Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [it] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Korsten CC: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATT Unix for Windows ! References: <199708251245.WAA23142@oznet11.ozemail.com.au> <19970825204932.12036@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <34020362.7DB1@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> <19970825224258.55928@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <19970826083051.FR52594@uriah.heep.sax.de> <19970826235525.22143@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Korsten wrote: > > > There are some pro's and con's to the Visual approach. > The Visual approach has nothing to do with M$ VC++; understand this MS VC++ is NOT a visual language; several real visual languages (most referenced in Yahoo) will feel offended if you use the term "Visual approach to describe VC++. Call it M$ approach instead > > The real mess begins, when you want to program a Windows application > or use the Microsoft Foundation Classes. But I doubt that programming > an X-application is much simpler. > X is much simpler as stated with a Visual C++ book from M$ press I used for my project. > If I forget the various disadvantages of Windows (NT) (try to > protect a single directory in IIS with a password, hah), the most > appealing aspect I find the uniformity and the integration. This > is something I miss in Unix. X is an improvement over the text > interface that preceded it, but it misses the integration, like a > uniform interface and drag-and-drop. > I hate uniformity, the creative mind usually won't stand the same GUI over and over again (still don't understand what's so cool in fvwm95). I love to log into the AIX box (it has a cool monitor) and log into the FreeBSD box to run bazillion X apps that don't run on AIX. This pleasures aren't posible with NT. I only use M$ stuff because I'm forced to...some teachers have clear "standards" of what technology is :-(. Pedro.