From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 13 18:31:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FF016A4DD for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25D5C43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58234 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jul 2006 18:31:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=prcI9BdAmuDpr6RQKbRVI5ZBJGWx8QOVauX2XX55VUXrVQyhT4UVJyvv/FMia3+NJCVKvM3hed47WtOUTrEGLkDKicu6+FeG7zZgCiBXTVIO+2qdhSbc2wqqV7wgxtyKUP3LXdYERyvBAX1o1Icxe0GH5dYwqmQ+3KsI1IncYas= ; Message-ID: <20060713183130.58232.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.34.182.15] by web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:31:30 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <302DCD13-7FFC-4525-AD32-07183BA51BCE@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:31:31 -0000 --- "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" wrote: > > On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Danial Thom > wrote: > > > > > > > --- "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> SMP has overhead but FreeBSD on 2 processors > >> can do more work than > >> FreeBSD on the same HW with just 1 > processor. > >> That is a fact. > >> > >>> Are you people stupid or delusional? > >> > >> No, and the data you posted did not support > >> your allegations of > >> performance either. > >> > >> Chad > > > > I doubt you have the capacity to understand > the > > tests, and as they say, you can't educate > the > > woodchucks. > > You can doubt all you want. The plain fact is > you said things like > 200-400% and the tests and commentary did not > support that. You also > inferred that a 2 CPU system in SMP mode would > overall be able to do > less work than a 1 CPU system in UP mode. > Again, you have given no > evidence that this is true and the stuff you > quoted did not support > that. It did say that there is overhead in the > SMP code that makes > things less efficient and that the overhead is > more than comparable > OSes, at least for the Sparc T1 stuff. > > You are the idiot, Mr. Thom. You may be > intellectually smart but you > are a blooming idiot when it comes to public > discourse. And I will > take the advice given earlier, to stop feeding > the trolls -- you are > a supreme troll. > > I may make 2 recommendations: > > #1 read "How to win friends and influence > people" . Here is a quick > synopsis. > > > #2 learn how to use your email program and to > trim posts you reply to. > Here's the deal, Chad. On this list, all the college-kid sysadmins tell me how great FreeBSD is, but on the freebsd-performance list, none of the developers refute my findings. If that doesn't tell you something, then you really don't have the capacity to comment on this or any other subject. You can't reason someone out of an idea not reasoned into, Chad. You have no foundation for your beliefs, so even prima facie evidence won't convince you. Its called being a fool. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com