From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 22 23:03:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B83516A401 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D70743D5F for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=53424 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FMCM9-0000xu-2J; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:03:09 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:57102 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FMCM7-0006QO-Rk; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:03:07 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:03:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603230003.00449.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD License "Innocence" Clause Proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:03:13 -0000 Sorry, forgot this part.. On Wednesday 22 March 2006 17:57, you wrote: > Nope. The real BSD license gives copyrights to the University of > California, Berkeley. Mainly for historical reasons because BSD > originated from there, but there is a legal reason also. You see, if > I Ted Mittelstaedt release software copyright Ted Mittelstaedt, even > if I give everyone rights to use it, I still retain copyright and > later on I can change the terms of that copyright. That is what the > courts have said I can do. As a result of this, people, when they use > my work commercially they will need to get me to sign a piece of paper. > If I'm not reachable, that's kind of hard. By giving the copyright If you use the copyright statement and then quote the (extra) provisions you have for distribution, as in -- Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: [ acceptable conditions like attribution ] or Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted. -- then they don't need you to sign anything, well, not for that code with those clauses. You are granting redistribution rights which are not granted by copyright itself, that's why there's a distribution license. I don't see the problem really. > to the University, it assures any future entity that there will never > be any question of copyight rights to use the work since the UCB > obviously > isn't difficult to find, and is not likely to dry up and disappear. s/University/FSF and s/BSD/GPL and you have a heated debate :) > This is why FreeBSD is copyrighted The FreeBSD Project and > not the individual developers copyrights. That's certainly not the case for the code used in FreeBSD, only for the FreeBSD trademark I think. Look at a random file in src. > If you retain your own copyright on the > work then your license might be a BSD-like license, but it's not > the BSD license. Dan