From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:07:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C353F16A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:07:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2784F43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=41012 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EX81m-0006Gq-Te for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:07:02 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:61891 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EX81k-0007g9-CH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:07:00 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 03:05:01 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051102013514.495C543D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20051102013514.495C543D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Face: :N, f2_*44g[tRY8Y-gL2zi`G|<6SpFjTeHt|V5LO6Yl2E7yAfEh{E6-8pqxUFX"l)=?utf-8?q?Nm8y=7E=0A=09IWJSAWQ=7D+=3DpP=7CT=5D?=@sy1sz%h)*CW6gtbp]"fe@MjICtIUo.0, CH~{[R4PXSyL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511020305.01612.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:07:04 -0000 On Wednesday 2 November 2005 01:34, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I understand the frustration and anger here, but let's please think of I don't have any frustration or anger. I just state my opinion. I'm glad you value it highly. > the newbies (people who are just joining in, lurkers if you will) who > just want help. > We all have to make a conscious (sp?) effort to kill this type of stuff. > > Think back when y'all were newbies...is this the type of stuff you'd > want to read? > I have to disagree. If any political or otherwise "potentially hurtful" content would have to be stripped from all the mailing lists archives the n00bs wouldn't be left with a lot of good advice. It's a useless discussion and laying the n00b ruler next to it will only make things worse. We've never ever censored anything, and I doubt we ever will in the near future (let's call that a definate NO). You should rethink what you're asking for. > I can think of other *nix lists where people can see this stuff as often > as they want. People come here for the professionalism. > > Who cares who contributed what. We're all in this together, and my > idealism was we were here to help one another. It's not about who contributed what at all in this discussion. > We all know that we expect newbs to reply to the list (as opposed to > just the original sender), but PLEASE, remove fbsd-q from the reply-all > address when posting like this. Not related. General discussions when started at freebsd-questions sre fair game at (grasp) freebsd-questions. > It's like a hockey game. Does the whole bench need to be involved, or > can it be solved between a few players who are in the kerfluffel? You're babbling. Let me wake you up gently here. What the heck is your point dude? Dan