From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 17 03:53:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA10052 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10045 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I2G2CRMITS0011W5@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:55:10 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09452; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:58:19 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:58:18 +0100 (MET) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: Win32 In-reply-to: <199603161831.KAA03892@rah.star-gate.com> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.) Cc: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199603171158.MAA09452@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Subject shortened] > > > Two things that can can attract more individuals to FreeBSD: > > o ability to run Win32 applications -- hows the Willows Project coming along? I think the main problem with Willows is performance. Apps are run under an interpreter (xwin) either interpreted or 'native'. I have run winmine.exe and sol.exe and though they run quite correct performance isn't something that knocks you off of your socks. Also I think one would have to dump X11 in favor of a native Win32 graphics kernel or build a Win32 graphics kernel into X. I don't know whether a different approach like running PE format and other MS .exe formats native under FreeBSD would be feasable. When MS developed NT they must have been faced with a similar problem but they solved it with convincing performance. And didn't they promise us POSIX layers and X11 and what not when I recall the first overhead foils that had been presented by DEC and NT apostels a couple of years ago? > > A few people that I have spoken to have said that if they could run > win32 apps they would use freebsd. The funny thing is that I didn't > notice a hesitation on their part 8) > > Another reason, is to attract Win32 application developers to FreeBSD. > > Perhaps, I am naive however I think that many would love to dump > Win3.1 and Win95. [fast internet connection / ISDN issues deleted] > > > Amancio > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de