From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 1 2:25:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3155614D7C for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00809 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Sorry, I just couldn't let this go by... Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 02:25:54 -0700 Message-ID: <804.936177954@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [Brett dribbles.. ] > >There's plenty. Check out the various Internet host surveys, such as the >one at http://leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/r.9904.txt: BSDs down, Linux up. >Linux is, according to The Gartner Group, the only non-Microsoft >operating system which is gaining market share. 1. Anyone looking at that first counter will be quickly struck by how, well, essentially lame it is - especially as it has one of the more unusual definitions of "BSD Family" I've ever seen. I also don't see how they calculate their own stats since if you look at the numbers they've posted, on 01/99 the "BSD Family" had 150961 entries and on 04/99 they had 186385 entries. This is a decline? Even so, their on stats engine also claims that its ability to "recognise" BSD OSes by whatever odd heuristic it uses has gone down between 1/99 and 4/99, making the numbers even less credible. 2. Elvis is, according to the National Enquirer, still alive and employed as a night manager at the EZ-Rest Truck Stop and Live Snake Show just 27 miles outside of Tempke, Arizona. Does this make it so? Probably not. Is the notoriously well clued-in Gartner Group's (NOT) claim that Linux is the only non-Microsoft OS to gain marketshare any more credible? Again, I seriously doubt it and the numbers just don't support them. We ARE gaining market share and that's easy to prove even if you don't care to accept Walnut Creek CDROM's marketing data. Just look at the number of FreeBSD newsgroup postings, or people camped out on #freebsd in IRC, or the number of FreeBSD downloads from the various mirror sites, or at just about any other publically available metric you'd care to examine. All, were you to actually take the time to graph them, show a steady increase. Yet because the Gartner Group says otherwise, you would have us believe that we should all just pack our tents and go home because a Large and Prestigious organization like the Gartner Group is never, ever wrong or biased in any way. Nope. Not them, not Mindcraft. Say Brett, I have this fine tower in Paris I think I can let you have for scrap at a very reasonable price since you're in the market! This "rebuttal" to David's comments makes me doubt your own credibility even more, if such is possible, and I am frankly both worried and curious that you could even be talking about "advocating FreeBSD" effectively when all you ever seem to do in public is slam it. This is an example of the kind of "boosterism" you want us all to get behind? Boy, with "positive role-models" like you, who needs enemies? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message