From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 17 16:20:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CFA16A412 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4694A13C459 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1860622uge for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:20:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=gvYCWWn2KQKl5VW7E4Vl14YFhOBl36jbBGXSQFB3TG2Etdi1gjj45+aDhk8rGUI8VUzzjsWhChaH8mfK+lpscA/+YMFhhDtHmuCTRz0GdMJ4o7pq4VIsQHGaHmChHN7FyYiLPybwXen44Pwv1QmF4dvCRlAkECW9JP7fMUgQFMw= Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr1573835bue.1169050801015; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:20:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90701170820o3e2985b2r54965df1f52c2e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:20:00 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <20070117005114.GD1522@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <539c60b90701060908o460d1d98wab2f2514a3a9d1e2@mail.gmail.com> <20070106202147.GB2532@kobe.laptop> <539c60b90701061849u35ddc61ch16a49484bd3baf12@mail.gmail.com> <20070107031750.GA5828@kobe.laptop> <539c60b90701070754r33ba9ae8q6b22f96be0ab6ea0@mail.gmail.com> <20070107162537.GB2261@kobe.laptop> <539c60b90701161447u36fc78a5jd1e40f265ea884a6@mail.gmail.com> <20070117005114.GD1522@kobe.laptop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 08c7376f1a4a3124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:20:05 -0000 On 1/16/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-01-16 15:47, Steve Franks wrote: > > So, this is what I have so for. It was a bit late at night, so I > appologise > > if my tone is a bit silly at times...where do we go from here? Steve > > [snip nicely written stuff about freezes during installation and first > post install steps] > > Fantastic! This looks like something that would fit quite nicely with > the section ``Installing FreeBSD > Troubleshooting'', in the Handbook. > > Do you mind if I integrate this with the section? Does it look like the > right place for you to write this stuff? Will you be able to review it > and let me know if it looks ok? Sounds good to me. You can read the current Handbook section at: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-trouble.html Hmmm. Yes, I don't think the current page provides much actual help for newbies. Can we make sure to put links to all the appropriate man pages ( i.e. device.hints) in my text when we insert it? I've found the man online to be way more useful than I expected for people who are willing to read. We also could use some driver gurus to make my list of things to disable, and things to *not* disable both longer and correct - I admit I wrote that on my windows box, because my laptop bios disables the system (on purpose) when you put a non-compaq bsd-friendly network card in it. Go big brother. This is why I want to get the whole world to run *nix. Regards, > Giorgos It occurs to me that a new option on the boot menu of the .iso installer that opens a version of this page in links or equiv might be most useful for newbies (I'm at work, so I can't check if it's there already). It might be useful to point to that doc if the .iso installer is started in safemode as well. Steve -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089