From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 10 14:24:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB50F1EA for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD747F90 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 10 Feb 2013 06:24:40 -0800 Message-ID: <5117ADA7.2040305@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:24:39 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claude Buisson Subject: Re: Time to kill fdc ? References: <79955.1360494404@critter.freebsd.dk> <5117927C.8090204@a1poweruser.com> <5117A990.7070109@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <5117A990.7070109@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2013 14:24:40.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CCF98B0:01CE079A] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:24:39 -0000 Claude Buisson wrote: > On 02/10/2013 13:28, Fbsd8 wrote: >> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> I tried to read a floppy disk yesterday. >>> >>> When was the last time anybody tried that with a FreeBSD release ? >>> >>> Based on my brief experiments yesterday, 6.X is the last release >>> where accessing floppy disks carry less than a 10% risk of a panic. >>> >>> Unless somebody fixes the fdc driver to work in -current, I intend >>> to dust of my axe and cut it from the tree later this spring. >>> >> Floppy drive support was removed from Freebsd around release 7.0 I >> think. Read the release-notes for 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0 to determine when it >> happened. > > Is this a joke ?? > > Script started on Sun Feb 10 14:47:20 2013 > root@fidel:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD fidel 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jan 18 17:45:10 > CET 2013 > toor@fidel:/usr/obj/home/src/sys/ADELE10X i386 > root@fidel:~ # mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy > root@fidel:~ # ll /floppy > total 341 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 1851 Aug 15 2011 licence.txt > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 79175 Aug 15 2011 liesmich.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 70564 Aug 15 2011 liesmich.txt > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 43319 Sep 15 2011 plpbt.bin > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 81846 Aug 15 2011 readme.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 71509 Aug 15 2011 readme.txt > root@fidel:~ # umount /floppy > root@fidel:~ # dd if=/dev/fd0 of=floppy.img > 2880+0 records in > 2880+0 records out > 1474560 bytes transferred in 48.027444 secs (30702 bytes/sec) > root@fidel:~ # mount_msdosdfs /dev/fd0 /floppy > root@fidel:~ # ll /floppy > total 0 > root@fidel:~ # umount /floppy > root@fidel:~ # dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0 > 2880+0 records in > 2880+0 records out > 1474560 bytes transferred in 47.829774 secs (30829 bytes/sec) > root@fidel:~ # mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy > root@fidel:~ # ll /floppy > total 341 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 1851 Aug 15 2011 licence.txt > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 79175 Aug 15 2011 liesmich.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 70564 Aug 15 2011 liesmich.txt > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 43319 Sep 15 2011 plpbt.bin > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 81846 Aug 15 2011 readme.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root operator 71509 Aug 15 2011 readme.txt > root@fidel:~ # rm /floppy/* > root@fidel:~ # umount /floppy > > with a 10 years old drive, and >10 years old floppies.. > > yes, there can be i/o errors with such media > > CBu > > My bad it was floppy install media that was dropped.