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12 Jul 2014 05:06:45 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart and bsdlabel References: <20140711201114.GA2064@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <20140711225249.cf2e3187.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140711231222.c09e89fe.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 05:10:24 -0000 > That's correct, but its main usage _today_ is GPT partitioning. > It also has the advantage to usually work better with newer > disks (where the fdisk and bsdlabel combo can get into trouble). > Read my statement as "Nobody uses MBR anymore!" ;-) > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 OpenBSD still uses MBR and has no support for GPT! GPT is a big improvement over traditional BSD disklabels, a royal nuisance to one who has multiple OSes installed on the hard drive. Linux can't find BSD-disklabel subpartitions most of the time, and the various BSDs tend to be unable to find each other's subpartitions. I could work with Linux fdisk but have difficulty with fdisk and bsdlabel/disklabel in NetBSD and FreeBSD. So I've largely switched to GPT and given up on OpenBSD. But I like Rod Smith's gdisk, which is in FreeBSD ports, better than gdisk because of support/recognition of many different partition types, though gpart is good if I want to install FreeBSD onto a USB stick and make it directly bootable. Tom