From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 22:40:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EAD37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta01-srv.alltel.net (mta01.alltel.net [166.102.165.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FF443FD7 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gehicks@alltel.net) Received: from alltel.net ([69.40.18.5]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with ESMTP id <20030706054015.HLEE26683.mta01-srv.alltel.net@alltel.net>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 00:40:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:40:15 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: Paul Robinson From: Jerry Hicks In-Reply-To: <20030626115133.GA57378@iconoplex.co.uk> Message-Id: <51BB3055-AF74-11D7-9616-0030657B5F1E@alltel.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: Peter McGarvey cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: RMS says: "Use BSD, for goodness sake!" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:40:17 -0000 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 07:51 AM, Paul Robinson wrote: > The big one is gcc. Remove that, and we're really rolling. The > alternatives > aren't very good though - TenDRA? I remember the troll a few weeks ago > suggesting this, and maybe it's a plan. The impact would be massive > though. Plan 9's compilers are the closest thing I've seen toward a compiler that could be used to bootstrap a BSD. I believe one would pay a hefty price in terms of optimization however. I actually got the assembler, compiler and linker working on Freebsd a while back. The Plan 9 compiler suite generates COFF output though and I needed to get a crt0 set up for it (which I never did). FreeBSD's IBCS image activator was able to load the images without a hitch. > All those makefiles with command line options to be passed to gcc... Bah, child's play :-) Cheers, Jerry Hicks gehicks@alltel.net