From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 14:03:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84B216A421 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB2F13C469 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189921F5A61; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:51:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4BD5BD73; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:51:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-163-250.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.163.250]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952661BF385; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:51:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.8.11] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l6LBpeJ0004176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:51:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <46A1F344.60901@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:51:32 +0200 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <47d0403c0707191450g4a80b549r6e0c2276b8fd4792@mail.gmail.com> <20070720093740.GA1002@gothic.blackend.org> <47d0403c0707200735l4bd84696jdbb829eebf92ae04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0707200735l4bd84696jdbb829eebf92ae04@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCACEC93587BEC613B233C446" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3713/Sat Jul 21 03:18:46 2007 on mail-in-04.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio CD's in SCSI drives -- syntax? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:03:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCACEC93587BEC613B233C446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben Kaduk schrieb: >> >> There is another tool for ripping audio CD with SCSI drives: audio/tos= ha >> I find tosha easier to use than cdda2wav, but this requires to install= >> another app and since cdda2wav is part of sysutils/cdrtools ... > > For now, I think I'll keep the handbook only mentioning cdda2wave -- > the text is confused enough as is. I think it might be worthwhile throwing out cdda2wav as the reference tool completely and instead rewrite the tutorial to feature cdparanoia, which is pretty much the state of the art ripping utilitiy these days (and has been even longer on Linux), works with device names rather than unit numbers for SCSI drives as well, does in fact not require the specification of any device by default as it will autoscan for devices and just use the first one it finds and finally is used as the ripping backend by nearly all modern GUI ripping utilities. The mp3 player paragraph probably could do with a rewrite as well, although it might be hard to come up with a substitute to XMMS - not because XMMS is so great and popular still, but mostly because there is so much more choice now. mpg123 on the other hand is very outdated and should probably be substituted with madplay. Finally, if you want to look at the big picture, the whole section 7.3 is somewhat outdated and in need of a rewrite, given that there are plenty of popular alternatives to mp3 available, including lossless compressors, and mp3 itself is encumbered by that patent and the lame port is thus restricted. It seems to me that re-dedicating section 7.3 to CD backups (with mentioning the possible formats to backup to) might be the way to go. Of course, that's all easy to say for me who never writes any documentation, but just in case someone reads this and feels inspired ... Cheers, --=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --------------enigCACEC93587BEC613B233C446 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGofNHXhc68WspdLARAkbuAJwNz+vUBl+oJWZKQVyymqDKXWLJXQCfQkeS TUVkoLk6Zt6AD0cwyZcK4Mw= =ZRqG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCACEC93587BEC613B233C446--