From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 29 19:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06F6157A6 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:59:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.net) Received: from trooper.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C56137F6B; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10295; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:59:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14483.46867.83713.676590@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:59:15 -0500 (EST) To: chris@calldei.com Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printer fiascos. In-Reply-To: <20000129214940.J10669@holly.calldei.com> References: <14483.45082.151986.340011@trooper.velocet.net> <20000129214940.J10669@holly.calldei.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Costello writes: Chris> On Saturday, January 29, 2000, David Gilbert wrote: >> When this happens, the entire machine freezes until someone feeds >> the printer --- the momment it starts printing again, the computer >> unfreezes. Chris> Could it be a printer-specific (or printer-compatibility) Chris> problem? My HP DeskJet 880C does not have that problem at all: To my mind, the printer shouldn't be able to hang the comptuer ... no matter what it does. My biggest problem is that it hangs the system. To your lack of problem, all I can say is that you might not have the conditions to notice it. To see the problem, you need the printer to fail to pick up paper (or to run out of paper) while the job is still being fed by the computer (does not count if the job is entirely within the printer when it runs out of paper). Now... I'm running LPRng, and it appears that only things printed by Samba clients (as opposed to local jobs which go through a gs filter first) hang the printer --- but this may be a red herring (that is all jobs might have the possibility to hang the printer, it's simply in our experience that lpr-submitted jobs havn't ... but then the sample of lpr jobs is very small compared to the sample of samba jobs). Regardless... the fact that the printer is hard to get working is a minor problem. The fact that it hangs the whole system is a MAJOR problem. (This is a real hard hang. Durning the hang no mouse/X response and no network (not even ping) response) When the printer is given paper, this problem disappears. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message