From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 7 9:39:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73A137B403 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f57GbZ132427; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010607153300.G42170@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: j mckitrick Subject: RE: emacs under x or console? Cc: grog@lemis.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Jun-01 j mckitrick wrote: > > question for greg, and other emacs users: > > i've started using xemacs after reading the evangelism of yourself (grog) > and others. so far, it's great. > > do you take the purist view, and run it in console mode so that you use the > same keystrokes whether running it locally or remotely? or do you run it in > x mode, to take advantage of the 'better' key mappings and extra features, > then just 'change mental mode' when you switch to a remote session? > > for example, using sticky-modifiers and being able to use my 'alt' key is > great in xemacs. but in console mode, this does not work as well, and i > also have to reach for the esc key, which really cuts down on efficiency. > > any thoughts? I'm not a purist, but I use xemacs in X. For one thing, it allows you to use the mouse until you learn all the keystroke shortcuts if necessary. Also, I like having the Meta key in X as well. You can configure Alt to act like Meta in the console if you use one of the *emacs* keyboard maps, but when I did that I found it had other unpleasant side effects on the usefulness of the console. Besides, in X you can have several large frames open at the same time, which is nice. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message