From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 17:38:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1560F16A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp2.utdallas.edu (smtp2.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33F13C43E for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901A25C156 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:38:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:38:37 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <87697E0AFC81A5FA07043474@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <464C2098.4050109@infidyne.com> References: <437646E3279CED649940FB48@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <20070516202735.GB97410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070516205504.GD97410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070517085201.73e347b3@localhost> <464C2098.4050109@infidyne.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========AF54E6A5D841363130EE==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Best remote backup method? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:38:38 -0000 --==========AF54E6A5D841363130EE========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:30:00 +0200 Peter Schuller=20 wrote: >> Also, dump/restore allows you to use snapshots on a live filesystem (I >> would test it properly on a large FS with heavy activity). > > But it's worth pointing out that this is fully possibly with any backup > tool - just run mksnap_ffs and backup a mounted snapshot. I do this with > rdiff-backup for example. > >> Now, if you are worried about "backing up the whole filesystem"...well, >> just tell dump not to dump it :) >> >> man chflags (in particular, the nodump flag) >> man dump (in particular, -h ) > > The problem with this is for me two-fold: > > (1) It's a global property. I can't take different backups that > include/exclude different things. > > (2) I can't easily express "backup /usr/var/db/my-important-database" > without seting "nodump" on a bunch of stuff except that. In other words, > I want exclude by default, while dump and the chflags system provides > include by default. > > That said I do like dump's integration with snapshots and overall > coherent feeling. If backup diskspace and bandwidth was not a concern > I'd use it. I want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've given me a = great deal to think about. I'll be reading over the responses again,=20 carefully, and decide what I think the best answer is. --=20 Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========AF54E6A5D841363130EE==========--