From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 05:48:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E2E16A41F; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 05:48:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1790B43D48; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 05:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jA25pmb46078; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 21:51:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 21:48:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051101221844.GJ56043@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: RE: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:48:58 -0000 >On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 14:15:30 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> On Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:32 PM, Chad Leigh wrote: >>> On Nov 1, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Peter Matulis wrote: >>> >>> Even though I was in favor of a logo being made for FreeBSD (we can >>> keep beastie as a mascot), the winner is not what I would call a >>> good logo for the purposes for which logos are used... >> >> Of course not. You got what you deserved though so shut the hell up. >> >> This is a contest that never should have happened for a reason that >> has no real justification, it is no wonder it produced a big turd. > >I don't completely disagree with your opinions, but I find your >attitude and language offensive. I find the equating of Beastie to a religious symbol, which is what provoked this stupid logo contest thing, infinitely more offensive. And I suspect the majority of people are of the same mind. Quite obviously, the boot-lickers of the conservative right don't understand this - my choice of language was intended to knock some sense in to them. I hope, for their sake, that they are offended. Greatly. If so then they might possibly have an idea of how offensive this entire Beastie=the devil thing is to those of us with normally functioning brains. I am surprised you didn't grasp the meaning in my message immediately, you at least are a writer and should understand manipulation. We certainly have had enough of it from the conservative apologists that spawned this new FreeBSD sex-toy logo. Ted