From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 9 05:32:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBF12DD144 for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 05:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000525fb7c.ad914b14fb2c4824fa7e28f5ac34d426@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49JwnT3TvQz4HXc for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 05:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000525fb7c.ad914b14fb2c4824fa7e28f5ac34d426@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1589002350; x=1591594350; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=QeIBl37mhCigt3g/e0NYEMshZpK5kXWY7uMfXTSlCy0=; b=NqJuPnFLyZZQwiEVrQME/FvgCzPmI8EdOtqqAhnMeqbQWFe4w3JpB9tzFYZX1S7LXLEWZ/6Wy05CqxaoQLAv3pu6o8lnmS4n31hvgkivmunQRbM4W2AJeCJj9LR+P7AqdIX8YfN6Y8RASoT+mtPETzz5QtrVnPqTF282oP3bxsU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDUyNWZiN2MuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 9 May 2020 01:32:24 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 9 May 2020 01:32:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jXI62-000B0H-Ng; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:32:22 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 06:32:22 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-Id: <20200509063222.94d762e9751a32c693d73d2f@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200508185327.00007397@seibercom.net> References: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> <223da1b3-a83d-b2e8-36dc-468dcb219305@suszko.eu> <20200508113438.00006adc@seibercom.net> <20200508185327.00007397@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49JwnT3TvQz4HXc X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.32 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 05:32:29 -0000 On Fri, 8 May 2020 18:53:27 -0400 Jerry wrote: > Both "Zoom" and "MS Teams" are working fine in my Win10 machine. I have > never tried to get them to work on FreeBSD, and I have no idea why I > would want to. I don't have a linux machine handy, although that is on > my "to-do" list. Perhaps by the end of this summer. One good reason for wanting them working on Linux or FreeBSD is not owning a Windows machine. I don't, so if I wished to use either of those tools it seems I would need to buy one or try and get it to work on something else. Standards compliance is usually a good way to make applications that work well on all platforms but it does seem that some vendors prefer to break that in order to work around deficiencies in their major market platforms. This is of course a valid (if irritating) commercial decision with strong short term benefits (the application works great on the major platforms). The downside being that there is no pressure to adhere to standards so it won't work well on anything else and neither can anyone get anything else to work as well on the major platforms. This is of course not a downside for the application vendor - one reason why OS vendors should not be allowed to sell applications IMHO, but that boat sailed decades ago. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith