From owner-cvs-all Wed Mar 14 10:24:19 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF54C37B718; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2EIMeH99727; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: paul@freebsd-services.co.uk Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, gsutter@zer0.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposals for fixing the PROBLEM at hand In-Reply-To: <3AAF86A6.65492AEC@freebsd-services.co.uk> References: <20010314005648.I9369@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010314011016.A28290@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AAF86A6.65492AEC@freebsd-services.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010314102240A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:22:40 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well I was under the impression that you were going to be quite pedantic > about it being security fixes only. If it's critical bugfixes as well > then that's exactly what I've been calling for. They would have to be so critical as to constitute something like a panic() which joe user could induce by running a common command, arguably a DoS anyway and something back in the security category. You're not going to get your "has all the necessary updates, runs all the latest software" goal out of this at all and you'll still need to act like a real admin. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message