From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 13:45:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6EF16A4CE; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:45:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postino-1.etat.lu (postino-1.etat.lu [194.154.205.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C34A43D2D; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:45:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from avirus-1.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.6]) by postino-1.etat.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825EE13E27C3; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from avirus-1.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.6]) by localhost (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 1) with ESMTP id 8480C21318; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 1) with ESMTP id 722942103C; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEJ003K527E0380@store.etat.lu>; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (MEST) Received: from LUCY ([148.110.43.189]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEJ00F4Y27B1460@store.etat.lu>; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:45:12 +0200 From: Didier Wiroth In-reply-to: To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <0IEJ00F5027E1460@store.etat.lu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcU6qHauAxM84wdsQKWcqfzfrkrm0QAAEfSw Subject: RE: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0000 Hello, Yes, I do agree that stability is "the" major argument for not using it. But isn't it worth to have a high resolution console on freebsd? Sorry, to be a bit self-confident ;-) but I'm rather sure that hundreds/thousands of freebsd would use it (on laptop, workstation and servers) if there would be an available solid implementation. One of the main arguments I've always reread, is, when you are physically at the console and require high definition consoles, "use X". On servers, security is "the" main factor and of course stability is part of good security. I personally don't tend to install X on servers, I'm sure there are other much better freebsd admins than me that don't install X on servers. Most security-related paper do not recommand to install X (and compilers of course etc). So at least on these kind of servers a high resolution (and of course) stable/solid console would be a real step forward for freebsd. In my "NON"-specialist opinion, comparing to linux distributions, it is the only main feature that bsd lacks. I personally don't like linux (but this is another discussion) but I've always missed the higher definition consoles on freebsd and/or even openbsd. Didier -----Original Message----- From: Robert Backhaus [mailto:robbak@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 14:59 To: Didier Wiroth Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vesa 1024x768 mode in future version? to the freebsd community On Apr 6, 2005 5:12 AM, Didier Wiroth wrote: > > I was wondering if the patches (see link below) have any chances to make their ways into a future release version or may be in the ports collection? I agree that it would make life more enjoyable for some people, but the console is increasingly a fail-safe debugging/configuring interface, as more people use X for any work. Yes, I would use it myself in places, especially laptops, but I would not like it there if it possibly made the console less stable. It would want to be very well tested. I'd slate it for 6.Stable, when it occours.