From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 29 12:02:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02947 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gutenberg.uoregon.edu (gutenberg.uoregon.edu [128.223.56.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02775 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sharding@gutenberg.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (sharding@localhost) by gutenberg.uoregon.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA05306; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:05:27 -0700 From: Sean Harding Reply-To: Sean Harding To: Stuart Krivis cc: Sean Harding , Rainer M Duffner , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What tipped the balance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Stuart Krivis wrote: > Being able to "boot net" is not a reason for choosing a Sun over a PC. You wanna bet? How many machines do you deal with? Anything like JumpStart for PCs? If you want to figure out how to efficiently install a new OS on many machines with FreeBSD and PC hardware, let me know. And besides, this was just an example. And example of how the software and hardware in workstations are infinitely better integrated and implemented than anything in the PC world. > You can get plenty of work done on a PC running FreeBSD. Yes, but it takes more time to get there. Especially for someone who has to admin lots of machines. > I work for a Sun VAR and I say you're just a hardware bigot. There are > times when a Sun is better and times it isn't. Ok, I'm a Sun bigot. That's why I mentioned SGI and even Macs as being in the same class. I just have been using Sun as an example because we have lots of them here, and people know Sun. I can talk HP, IBM, Digital, SGI, and Apple too if that would make you happier. You seem to really be missing most of my points. First of all, I *never* brought speed or "snappiness" into the discussion (which, BTW, is a poor measure of performance. I like windows to open quickly, but I'd rather have my renders and compiles get done a little sooner or my web server perform better). Someone else brought that up. My entire point was that workstation hardware (*not* software) is easier to set up and deal with than PCs. If you can reasonably argue with that, I'll be very impressed. Everyone is trying to show me performance stats to dispute my argument. The fact is, I never said I *cared* about that. For me, it's a matter of getting my job done. A lot of that is getting and keeping the machines up and running. And that generally takes a lot less effort when it is a workstation rather than a PC. Sean -- Sean Harding sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu|"It's not a habit, it's cool. http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/ | I feel alive." NeXTMail OK! | --k's Choice To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message