From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 18 8: 4:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C15C37B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14339; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200011181604.IAA14339@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New US CVSup mirrors In-Reply-To: from Randy Bush at "Nov 18, 2000 07:50:52 am" To: rbush@bainbridge.verio.net (Randy Bush) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:04:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: davids@webmaster.com (David Schwartz), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > These problems could be solved if: > > 2) The list of available servers were reasonably well maintained so that > > busy or stale servers were removed from it in a timely manner. > > and cash could fall from the sky. :-) > > in operational reality, this is not a tractable problem without things like > a 7x24 noc with access to all servers, dns, ... and then it is reduced from > infeasable to merely a pain in the butt. > > and the gain is far from worth it. Actually any perl weenie worth $15.00 hour should be able to codify a fully automated solution to this problem in less than 8 hours. cvsup-master.freebsd.org already has the data on what servers are actively updating from the master via the cvsupd.log file. Infact it knows exactly what collection was updated on what server at what time. Prune that data to a list of ``active and reasonably up to date servers'' and send dynamic DNS updates... viola automagic system. Hell we had a perl hacker around here that made ${User}.portmaster.isp.com track who had what IP address assigned when they logged in via dynamic DNS. Now before someone goes off and tries to do this there are other harder technical reasons that this is a bad idea, the major one being locality of reference, ie we really don't want folks is Australia cvsuping from servers in Russia now do we!!! -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message