From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 17:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A9A16A4E1 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B6543D49 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 22869 invoked by uid 0); 31 Aug 2006 17:49:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2006 17:49:57 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 1961E28420; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:49:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:49:52 -0500 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060831174952.GA44046@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20060830232723.GU10101@multics.mit.edu> <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <78a2305a0608310830l923f83pbd03b2c89d417505@mail.gmail.com> <44F70598.2040408@Gravier.org> <78a2305a0608310857pd155323t68597a6e2380977c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <78a2305a0608310857pd155323t68597a6e2380977c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:50:00 -0000 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:57:32AM -0700, Andy Ruhl wrote: > On 8/31/06, Gilles Gravier wrote: > >Ahem... so no Apache... but why games, X11, compiler? > > So don't install the games set, the X set, or the comp set if you > don't want that stuff. > > I think the point I'm trying to make is, apache is certainly not > something *most* people will use. When Andy first said "no Apache" I mistakenly heard him to say "in the kernel". Have heard others wanting to move http servers into the kernel for (hopefully) better performance. IMHO this is the Microsoft Mistake, to throw everything in including the kitchen sink. OTOH a function such as sendfile() when integrated into the kernel can know more about optimizing buffers, and is a good compromise. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.