From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 17 1:45:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C5214D79 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.97]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3520; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:43:05 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08044; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:43:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:43:13 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jordan the Confused (Was: Jordan The Evil!) Cc: crh@outpost.co.nz, "Daniel O'Connor" , chris@calldei.com, Brett Glass , jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, Amancio Hasty , eagle Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Apr-99 eagle wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >> > No one is stoping you from writing the tools needed to make FreeBSD a >> > "desktop-oriented" system. Just as no one is stoping you from writing >> > a FreeBSD emulator for Linux which, if I remember right, was you last >> > obsession. If you feel that there are things missing from FreeBSD you >> > need to go and build them. >> >> Actually, a better question is why are people not writing applications? >> Is it because they lack the programming skills, inefficient tools, >> targetted goals, etc... >> > i've come to the conclusion that it has to do with available > documentation, thus the PDP was started, however that will just cover > freebsd internals, not the x protocol Correct Rob, I am busy getting everything out on ASCII and have been getting involved a lot into device drivers and other lowlevel stuff in order to understand FreeBSD more to provide the documentation and make it as accurate as possible. However, I am currently busy with starting up a company and unfortunately that easts time. But I'm still there ;) To continue, I wrote to AMI with regard to their MegaRAID controllers and drivers in order to get them into FreeBSD. I hope to provide details soon. Also, I am working, alongside with Rob, on a graphical MUA which will be released under BSD style license... JFYI, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message