From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 21:55:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE9B16A400; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1141C13C46C; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [88.64.187.68] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1Hc7Fy3qv2-0004on; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:55:07 +0200 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:54:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070412210957.GA31864@heff.fud.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20070412210957.GA31864@heff.fud.org.nz> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1946061.CzJAZvijG4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200704122355.05846.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+kr4MV7OU9CdOOKImdCQDjMOjsGnJKIaxccbL g0HBrTU6PnB1QuT3ZV/WcXt3DleZjX7RzKvNqIllFS8JdmJ3PN dIMNWuhi39c86WbHvjA5Q== Cc: Peter Jeremy , Ian FREISLICH , brooks@freebsd.org, Andrew Thompson Subject: Re: CFT: new trunk(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:55:13 -0000 --nextPart1946061.CzJAZvijG4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 April 2007 23:09, Andrew Thompson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:39:00AM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > > Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > On 2007-Apr-11 15:43:04 +0200, Ian FREISLICH =20 wrote: > > > >Andrew Thompson wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:17:29AM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote: > > > >> > We're making extensive use of vlans to increase the number of > > > >> > interfaces availabble to us using switches to break out gigE > > > >> > into 100M interfaces. The bandwidth problem we're having is > > > >> > to our provider, a 100M connection, and we're looking at doing > > > >> > exactly this. However, it appears that this interface can't > > > >> > trunk vlan interfaces. > > > > > > =3D2E.. > > > > > > >No, I'm sure I want it the way I said. I know it sounds wrong, > > > > but I just don't have enough PCI-X slots to waste 2 on physical > > > > 100M NICs for the uplink from the routers. > > > > > > Trunking is a way of combining multiple physical interfaces to > > > increase the bandwidth. Trunking multiple VLANs on a single > > > interface doesn't make sense to me. > > > > 802.1q is VLAN tagging and trunking. This interface is LACP - link > > aggregation. I really think that it makes no sense to be able to > > aggregate some ethernet interfaces and not others. I suppose some > > pedant will tell me vlan interfaces are not ethernet. > > I think the unfortunate name of trunk(4) that we inherited from OpenBSD > is causing quite some confusion. trunk(4) actually has nothing to do > with vlan trunking which I think you are after. > > I can see this topic coming up again so it could save some time to > rename the driver now. It would mean that we lose the naming link to > the same driver in OpenBSD but you cant win em all. > > Some names that have been suggested are: > > linkag(4) > agr(4) > bond(4) <- same as linux > > Any suggestions! team(4) group(4) gang[bang](4) ;-) .. I'd prefer if we keep the name and a compatible interface as it=20 will allow to reuse documentation. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart1946061.CzJAZvijG4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGHqq5XyyEoT62BG0RAp14AJ9MylShs9XxLksoKt+iwyrbRjP9zgCfYzYL pHEel1J1J1SUztYAFQ0i+KE= =1TjM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1946061.CzJAZvijG4--