From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 21 10:42: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FF937B50C; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.19.5] (dialup660.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.21.148]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9156D1229B; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:41:56 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:30:28 +0100 To: Kris Kennaway , kc5vdj@swbell.net From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Strange Spam Cc: dmartin@origen.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 3:05 AM -0800 2000/2/21, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> occam's razor dictates that the entire echelon thing is just another >> commie-style recruitment tactic that right-wing extremist groups use. > > Reports tabled in the european parliament argue otherwise. They're taking > it very seriously. Good references are: With good reason. It is real. Unless you already have the necessary clearance and have been properly briefed, I suggest that you read the following two books: http://www.amazon.com:80/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140067485/o/qid=951156937/s r=8-1/103-7536616-2575815 and http://www.amazon.com:80/exec/obidos/ASIN/0887302858/qid=951157400/sr= 1-4/103-7536616-2575815 In fact, there are a whole wealth of books that turn up with the following search: http://www.amazon.com:80/exec/obidos/Subject=Space%20surveillance In particular, you will notice that this book: http://www.amazon.com:80/exec/obidos/ASIN/0700609423/qid=951157536/sr= 1-1/103-7536616-2575815 is very popular at TRW, which happens to be a major US defense contractor in this area. I haven't read it, and I'm sure that there are some inaccuracies, but his previous book (which I did read), well.... I can't talk about it. Now, if they're doing this with satellites, what you do think their ground network is like? -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy _________________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/726.93.11 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message