From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 22 18:11:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C27416A4B3 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net (shockwave.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D1D43F85 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@thuvia.org) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (81-178-247-38.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.247.38]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32031C0015A; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:11:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8N1BOPA028056; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:11:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@dotar.thuvia.org) Received: (from mark@localhost) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8N1BO1j028055; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:11:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <200309230111.h8N1BO1j028055@dotar.thuvia.org> From: Mark Valentine Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:11:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20030923002057.GA1491@online.fr> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Rahul Siddharthan cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDCon photos X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:11:28 -0000 > From: Rahul Siddharthan > Date: Mon 22 Sep, 2003 > Subject: Re: BSDCon photos > If you like all that, you may like links (in the ports) -- it has > graphical as well as text-only modes, and even does some javascript I > think HTML without CSS is just too painful; decent graphical presentation is a core requirement for a web browser (and no, typical web browsers aren't my idea of a good application architecture...). I don't use mush and trn because I dislike a GUI, but because there are no GUI equivalents which are equally competent at their core functions and suit my style of working. I don't give up hope completely against finding more modern equivalents - it's not so many years since I finally abandoned a locally hacked version of the non-open non-portable Warwick shell for bash, once bash finally grew enough knobs to emulate what I found was a most natural style (essentially satisfied by tab-completion with show-all-if-ambiguous combined with history-search-{forward,backward} bound to ^N/^P, which was the hardwired behaviour of our hacked up wash since the mid-80s). It was a breath of fresh air to escape the restrictions of that old shell without losing its essential advantages. Cheers, Mark. -- "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* --