From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:04:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EC3106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6C78FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8gzX1b0040lTkoCA9r49ln; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.244.28]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8r471b00B0dV8n18Qr48i4; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 From: Dave Feustel To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <20090128030408.5C6C78FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:18:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000, RW wrote: > > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. > > Well, I found this a problem, too, but very early recognized that > there are window managers that can actually combine keyboard AND > mouse control at a very user-friendly level. Such a window manager > is WindowMaker. > > It can even utilize the keys on the left of a Sun Type 6 keyboard > for window manager functions (front, back, roll up, hide, full- > screen etc.) which "the big DEs" can't. > > What I don't like personally about "the big DEs" is their way of > handling windows through the means of the mouse. You're forced > to click on tiny buttons, and if you enlarge the control buttons, > you end up with uselessly wasting screen space. In WindowMaker, > there are many operations that don't force me to first move the > mouse to a certain place and THEN do the operation I want. This > makes windowing operations, especially in operations context, > very fast and easily. > > So professional window managing isn't about minimalism only. There > are other window managers that can provide effects and "bells > and whistles" very efficiently, if you think you need them. > But, of course, they're not "mainstream". > I have gotten very interested in window managers. Earlier tonight I added links to about 6 non-mainstream window managers, including WindowMaker. But I still don't understand how the menus of each of these WMs are customized via .xinitrc, etc. Where can I find that info. I would like to have a right click menu that would allow me to select a new WM to run with. Is that possible? Thanks.