From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 20 20:30:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E1D16A4D0; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:30:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EC443D41; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:30:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9KKSpEZ035326; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:28:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20041020.142910.70180484.imp@bsdimp.com> To: pjd@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20041020202004.GM73767@darkness.comp.waw.pl> References: <20041020190502.GA33840@dragon.nuxi.com> <200410201553.40823.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20041020202004.GM73767@darkness.comp.waw.pl> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: jhb@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: deischen@freebsd.org cc: obrien@freebsd.org cc: julian@elischer.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:30:07 -0000 In message: <20041020202004.GM73767@darkness.comp.waw.pl> Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes: : On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 03:53:40PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: : +> For 6.0 we are (finally!) going to just drop 80386 altogether. I've been : +> wanting to do this personally since early SMPng days, but we came to an : +> agreement back then and since we've already gone and branched RELENG_5 and : +> frozen the ABI I think we should stick to the previously agreed-upon plan. : : So maybe it is good time to think about 486 in 6.x. : I don't know how much can we get from dropping support for 486, but maybe : it's worth it. : Before the next war will start, the good argument for me is, that : FreeBSD 5.x is still going to work on 486 and we should move on. >>CPU: AMD Enhanced Am486DX4/Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU) Part of the agreement at the devsummit was to not break all the soekris boxes, which use the above CPU. The win is much smaller than for the 80386 and there's new hardware being made based on a 486 core, so I think it would be premature to kill it. Warner