From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 27 1: 8:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB0A154E0 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA27276; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:08:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd027261; Thu May 27 01:08:22 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12377; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:08:21 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199905270808.BAA12377@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Note on my experience with Netscape 4.6 To: fullermd@futuresouth.com (Matthew D. Fuller) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:08:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990526195756.D6251@futuresouth.com> from "Matthew D. Fuller" at May 26, 99 07:57:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I use the FreeBSD version, and while Netscrape has never been a model of > stability (under 2.2), now with 4.[56] under -CURRENT it routinely > crashes out (sig10 usually) maybe every 3, 4 days, and I have a page or > two around I can induce a crash at any time with. Doesn't hurt my X > server or anything, just... well: > May 25 17:05:54 mortis /kernel: pid 86922 (communicator-4.5), uid 100: > exited on signal 10 [ ... ] > That was when I was testing it repeatedly on one page; it really is 4.6 > even when it says 4.5, the binary was named wrong. 4.5 on -CURRENT DID > seem to be ever so slightly less stable than 4.6, so I guess it's an > improvement, but... FWIW, John Dyson's threads are probably more stable than yours. 8-). Also, NetScape has a general concurrency problem in its Java implementation; you aren't by chance using the browser with Java enabled? The gist of it comes down to an assumption about scheduling policy for threads following a preemption by another process (not thead). The assumption is valid for Solaris/NT/95, but invalid for FreeBSD, Macintosh, and most other OS's. Netscape also has a nasty problem in it's GIF decoder that prevents it from running concurrent copies of the decoder simultaneously for a Java (or JavaScript, actually) window. Maybe someone to whom Netscape would listen could report this to them? It would help out their Macintosh version as well, FWIW. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message