From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 16 15:08:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8071065689 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7791F8FC21 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29841 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2009 15:08:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=CFIBDaktYqfh8GwpkPzrgCmhagT6jgnapDF0UGMsrCJQ/fT5C6UneYqVZuz17XD01iQR1jPsd3WmM0qPGKiPGZTc4NUKyPWWUjrTpq9p1yL5BWuEpGo1eU9yBEd5PZws/3skv0iS2+fWzUSs6x7b+EHrU3wIQZ0umJqmyDRmgWQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2009 15:08:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hmiCwC4VM1kL4wg3_rRG_0KhLxE1H3k6oczSAhKA.rfhA5MaiviGyJdQlCCkqXXyxQGPYA_QuC6zYBnQGnuHMsz0SHBudbq9NHBEBUY7VNjs6zGYorDcN78dkdAZXi.0vVknJlU52JXOkMLZ02NDGaQDQ7hBbGPOHPZtrkRtnNwT_ne0buEoKSGuCcX9CIN3Xf5WCv0syE7siXkgUV_oJ3fhKuRncY.w X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:08:02 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090116100802.09d9dd83@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <1232068850.22938.11.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4966A975.5050202@ibctech.ca> <4966B8E8.7070001@ibctech.ca> <496762E1.6070107@gmail.com> <6AEDCF9BC41A4571BCF2FE7F7D5F4376@GRANTPC> <1232068850.22938.11.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Wj.wqsG_ISTIdCmd1uoAqxb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:08:22 -0000 --Sig_/Wj.wqsG_ISTIdCmd1uoAqxb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 Da Rock wrote: >On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? >>=20 >> What I am asking, is, somehting like: >>=20 >> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using >> the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind >> up with: >>=20 >> F1 Windows >> F2 FreeBSD >> F5 Disk1 >>=20 >> -Grant > >Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates >and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free >software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install >Window$ and give up. > >I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the >pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. >Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it >should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based >rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. > >Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has >changed. This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. Check out these two URLs for further information. http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freeb= sd/ You will also need the "sysutils/grub" port installed. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. --Sig_/Wj.wqsG_ISTIdCmd1uoAqxb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklwot0ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3OjACeKJjHYV3h7q2V8l2ILv/A2wpX bl8AmwS6AD/0vwSPw+Lt5eKqiFhH0rmh =nFBo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Wj.wqsG_ISTIdCmd1uoAqxb--