From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 25 21:04:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E191340 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B991720 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nine.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp-int.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61A86AC7 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nine.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27DCD31238; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 23:04:32 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSL static analysis, was: De Raadt + FBSD + OpenSSH + hole? References: <8783.1398202137@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20140423003400.GA8271@glaze.hydra> <20140423010054.2891E143D098@rock.dv.isc.org> <20140423012206.GB8271@glaze.hydra> <86bnvpoav7.fsf@nine.des.no> <86zjj9mivi.fsf@nine.des.no> <20140425175056.GA8508@glaze.hydra> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 23:04:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20140425175056.GA8508@glaze.hydra> (Chad Perrin's message of "Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:50:56 -0600") Message-ID: <86iopxm87z.fsf@nine.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:04:31 -0000 Chad Perrin writes: > Do you claim that the Clang static analyzer is essentially worthless for > finding and fixing security-related bugs because it is more trouble to > make use of its output than its output is worth, or does it only *seem* > like that is your claim? All I was saying is that 70% of this thread is pointless and that some of the most active participants are talking out of their asses. I won't address the wall of text in your previous reply except to note that you misrepresented my position and argued against a claim I never made. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no