From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:45:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50F106567D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543748FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Ra3-0006q8-IT; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5BEjfa3019181; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 183F9FCABAF; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:14 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Brian Astill Message-ID: <20080611144514.GB1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Astill , "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1213141399.6749.19.camel@steve-laptop> <359a3c580806101950o63360bc7l454dbff436437039@mail.gmail.com> <200806102135.47624.mgb-ubuntu@yosemite.net> <200806111942.28491.bastill@adam.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200806111942.28491.bastill@adam.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 (BST) Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:47 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:42:27PM +0930, Brian Astill wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:05:47 pm Mike Bird wrote: > > > > All we need is stable unadulterated versions of most packages, > > a real binary package manager (sorry Gentoo and Slackware), and > > a recent kernel and graphics support.  Compared to Ubuntu that > > would be a lot more value for a lot less effort.  If anyone > > knows of a distro like this I really want to hear about it. > > Mike Bird for President! Yeh! > I guess that imaginary distro is exactly what I want. > (thinks .... ) Would v7 of FreeBSD qualify? Well it's got a recent kernel, it's got Xorg 7.3 and it's got binary package management but it hasn't got Adobe Flash ATM. An Ubuntu user would be better pointed at PC-BSD or DesktopBSD. They aim at ease of use: http://www.pcbsd.org/ http://www.desktopbsd.net/ IIRC they use the 6.3 kernel (which is currently supported & pretty much as recent as 7.0) and they use KDE rather than Gnome. They also have support forums aimed at new users, the FreeBSD mailing lists tend to be more technical. I can't comment as to how good either is as I've used neither but they've had positive write-ups. I use FreeBSD 7.0 on my workstation & 6.3 on my server so I know the underlying system is sound. > -- > Regards, > Brian HTH. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html