From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:50:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A142B4E5 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from winston.madpilot.net (winston.madpilot.net [78.47.75.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A722E48 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from winston.madpilot.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3gl0zP4Zd1zFTBB; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:50:41 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=madpilot.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :references:subject:subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:from :date:date:message-id:received:received; s=mail; t=1402005039; x=1403819440; bh=kEGOAfCXVROwInMHooC+/QfGqNhpFOPWgbrS9p/fKaM=; b= HAmPPeuyy4de7XubKxKZFgwhfeJzyUdv1n0TmgjXpkpA0KDIdMl6OGfYgT/VzuQf 3epT5Ur0qVvmfbl0iiP3PQD5Jzq5OPW1c3nbLdEGV+9TQ5NURz1nCCfALnU4nTV1 XTnwZ1HOkUZHs97r5zmtyUyK3sb63hE6DAsgVR2pedo= Received: from winston.madpilot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by winston.madpilot.net (winston.madpilot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7yzCDFf-y1Mi; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:50:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tommy.madpilot.net (micro.madpilot.net [88.149.173.206]) by winston.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 23:50:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5390E62E.6090807@madpilot.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 23:50:38 +0200 From: Guido Falsi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl , "A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven" Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius References: <20140605211831.GA90310@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:50:48 -0000 On 06/05/14 23:43, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On June 5, 2014 at 11:18:31 PM +0200 "A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven" > wrote: > >> Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >>> That decided it was a good idea to completely break ports to force >>> people to upgrade? You couldn't come up with a warning system instead >>> of outright breaking ports? The idiots are apparently running the >>> asylum. {{sigh}} >> >> It might help to know exactly what you're talking about... What is it >> that >> broke? >> > > The change to make that causes this when you run pkg commands or try to > build ports: > > Unknown modifier 't' > > It was done deliberately to break ports so that people would be forced > to upgrade to a supported version. > > No it was not done "deliberately" Newer freebsd version moved to a newer make utility, and support for the old one has been dropped after support for all old releases containing it was ceased. Which releases are supported and for how long is well known, and published in here when a new release is published: http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup The updates are free, as in "no payment needed". What's keeping you from performing a binary update of the base system every year or so? Running such an old system as any of the unsupported releases is also most probably exposing you to security vulnerabilities. Sometimes to change things you need to break compatibility, the project did wait till it was coherent with what was promised before doing this. -- Guido Falsi