From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 12:41:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EFC16A401; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6119613C46A; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3DCfeQ1070887; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:41:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3DCfWKw044402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:41:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l3DCfWFJ038207; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:41:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l3DCfV17038206; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:41:31 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Lev Serebryakov Message-ID: <20070413124130.GF30772@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <200704112004.03903.lists@jnielsen.net> <20070412021645.GQ30772@cicely12.cicely.de> <168809424.20070412205725@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20070412175525.GB30772@cicely12.cicely.de> <461F7699.3020808@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <461F7699.3020808@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.4-STABLE alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: ticso@cicely.de, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ZFS to support chflags? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:41:43 -0000 On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 04:24:57PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > >Yes, but dump doesn't support ZFS and with ZFS you can much simpler > It is good point :) But flags can be used by `find' to prepare file > lists for backup too (on spnapshot, of course!). Usually file based backup software uses exclude patterns - often possible to setup in .something files. > >split out non backup directories in different filesystems. > Huh!? At least 2 FS for each active user in system (and 3 for many of > them)? Why not? With ZFS I only see the kernel mount list as a possible problem, which AFAIK doesn't scale very well. Maybe someone else with more knowledge will comment on this point. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de support@fizon.de