From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 08:18:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45DDA80; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D013E23A9; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AlfredMacbookAir.local (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.10.192]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2F5C1A3C1B; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53917957.2020909@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 01:18:31 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marino@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius References: <20140605211831.GA90310@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <5390E62E.6090807@madpilot.net> <6CEF0183772C97582B196466@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <539130B3.9030604@freebsd.org> <8CA324878D330942AB8AE0B3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <5391611A.3090406@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <5391611A.3090406@marino.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:18:02 -0000 On 6/5/14, 11:35 PM, John Marino wrote: > On 6/6/2014 05:37, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> Something like that would have been more than adequate. As I pointed >> out, the warning you get about pkgng and the 9/1/2014 deadline is >> perfect. It's been there for a couple of months, and it pops up ever >> time you do a port. If you miss that and don't convert, you don't have >> anyone but yourself to blame. > Which is exactly the same case with you and the 8.3 EOL. > If your business relies involves server maintenance, it's entirely your > responsibility to track EOL. How somebody with "senior" in their job > title is looking to blame everyone else for failing something so basic > is rich. > > You say semantics isn't important? You say 8.3 isn't "old"? It may > not be old compared to a dog, but it reached its published end-of-life. > Any expectation you have about support after EOL where probably forged > by watching Microsoft support XP. That's not the model to expect. > Install some mirrors in your house. > Sure, but really a couple of lines to warn people and wave them towards next steps is probably advisable next time. -Alfred